i just heard from some guys over here that the leader collapsed whilst preaching on stage a few days back - i also read it on Raw Fiji News who are saying he
had a heart attack whilst preaching and is now in hospital ?
But the bamboo telegraph in Fiji is always active. The entire church must know by now if their leader has been taken by God for worshipping and supporting
Satan. I wonder how much of that FHL money went to the New Methodists through Sharon Qoro. I would not be surprised if they think it is a good investment, just
as Teleni things a evangelical crusade is good police work. These folks are real nutters. No idea how to handle their jobs so they try to transform it into
something which involves nothing but faith so they think they are instant experts. I would have no faith in those people doing those jobs unless they had real
and successful experience, which they do not. Just get Siti Weleilakeba back. Who cares about his private life and wild parties if he gets the investment
growing (the job done). He is responsible to shareholders, not some cult following Satan. I assure you he did not waste $30 million on his parties as Sharon
has done with her naivete and show of incompetence.
Siti's issue is he has a God complex - i know him well he is my cousin.
and thats what makes him so good - his confidence and arrogance. his belief in his own abilities is what makes him good - plus brains of course - but arrogance
sometimes gets the better of even the best.
its caused a problem in the FHL system.
because of his God complex he got all these guys to work under him who weren't as smart as him - so that he could control things - which he did.
but it also created that problem - politicking. guys tend to move to politicking to cover up inadequacies in that kind of set up.
if you encourage creativity and brains you will get the best out of your guys - if you stifle it and force control you will have your guys politicking
eachother to impress you - and then finally they will politick against you.
what he should have been doing was building up succession instead of building Siti's empire - and the net result is now there for all to see - when he got
booted there was basically noone capable enough to fill his shoes let alone sit in is chair and make those decisions - its gone cargo cult now.
what guys fail to see is that the BP deal has truly gone pear shaped - the 20% devaluation has had an impact BUT THE BIGGER IMPACT will be the penalty interest
provisions in the agreement for late settlement - that one will truly hurt - everytime they delay they are paying an additional $5 million, so three delays
means they've already done $15 million - but in Agreements like that there's also the penalty interest for late settlement - and we don;t know what the
penalty interest is, yet.
and if they do get financing (in unlikey even that they do) their financin figures will be out of whack - the penalty interest contiues to run, they are
dropping $5 million every month and someone will need to cover for their deposit (cause i doubt that it will be 100% financing).
not good.
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Humility is always nice, but unfortunately there are too many jealous folks out there trying to drag the smart ones down, so one reaction is to ignore them.
As for succession, Ratu Mara had that problem too. He certainly could have picked a better military leader than his two son's in law or Voreqe, but he was
focused on people he could control, and he perhaps did not count on a nobody like Franko getting all that power and using it to overthrow rather than support
him.
As far as smart folks go, I like JN's style. By the way, he, Siti, and Sharon were all here at Harvard at the same time in 2006 and came home for a
feed. To bad to have Fiji's intelligentia working at cross purposes and playing right into Mahen's hands. I hate to think that Fiji is now becoming
known for goons rather than brilliant people. One way or another, Frank has made the whole race look hopless, by chopping the legs of the good ones and
promoting the hopeless ones. Now it is a nation of mediocrity and 19th century mentality.
I think of all the hopes and dreams, training, counterparts, and localization that took place in thez 70's. All that planning and effort and then to have
it taken over by school dropouts, pompous chiefs who do not even know how to groom their own children, and bribing businessmen and scammers.
Too much too fast and the idiots thought it was a permanent gravy train. Now everything comes crashing down because one fool has a vision that he is supposed
to lead.
yeah being the Alpha male does have its advantages i suppose......top dog, wild parties, hot women.
then again its not exactly a recipe for business stability either - because when you end up thinking from the tip of your penis instead of your brains you make
some irrational decisions on who you hire into the business - and in the end it always come back to kick you in the balls when you least expect it.
thats how it always goes.
and sometimes i tend to think women are smarter because of that - they don't make testosterone fuelled mistakes.
He got kicked in the balls by a jealous school dropout, a monkey with a machine gun.
Don't know how much is gender oriented, but in this case Sharon seems to be making decisions based on "faith" rather than any investment
expertise. If that is the case, I think her religion has let her down and perhaps the message that the guy in the yacht in Savusavu was trying to send was the
correct one.
A religion which supports a military government which brings a nation to its knees must be a false one. Blame the UN too for promoting a military which has
thug leadership. Any country in the world where a government of the People is overthown by a military coup should be immediately expelled from UN employment.
The underlings were getting support from the junta.
Isoa and Sharon are telented people, but not good enough for that job.
Frank wanted someone he could manipulate, someone who would be dependent on him.
Likely he was encouraged too by Mahen, who wants all Fijians to come out looking bad in order to validate himself and his race. Now you have the NBF scam, the
Ag scam, and now Fijians stuffing up the investment corporation specifically set up to help Fijians get into investment. The message is that Fijians cannot do
anything right. It propagates the Indian myth, justification for commercial discrimination, and no more affirmative action.
Qoro was appointed years back - same thing with Kaloumaira.
the regime had nothing to do with their appointments.
my reading of the situation is this is what happens when you create a centralised setup to control decisionmaking and set it up so that its all focussed on one
guy - Siti - the rest of the people in the organisation work to out politick eachother to get ahead. the structure was not a business structure but a POWER
STRUCTURE - to get ahead you needed to out politick the next guy.
now all the FHL shareholders are talking about mediocre people running the place - but they themselves endorsed Qoro's appointment years ago.
and she has now replaced Siti.
so long as Siti had the ears of the Board his position was guanranteed - the rest of the workers under him had to have his favor to stay in place - and getting
his favor didn't necessarily mean being creative or being intelligent - it simply meant deferring to the Big Boss Man.
when the Board structure changed - after the FAB utilised its shares to decide who sat on the Board, thegame changed for Siti - he no longer held the ears of
the Board - and the politicking that had not touched him upto that stage suddenly became very real to him - because he no longer had the ear of teh Board - the
politicking he bred over the many years he had been at the helm became his own undoing in the end. his own people politicked agaist him using the very same
dynamics he had encouraged to keep them under his thumb and controlled - but this time they went for the Boss Man.
and the Board agreed - and thats was the end of Siti's run at the top of FHL.
his succession structure kicked into motion - his No 2 replaced him.
no point blaming FB - it was their own internal decision as a company. FHL as a company with its own shareholders.
but you are right on one thing - Siti didn't get it right in so far as managing his people was concerned - he created a yes Boss set up to ensure his
personal empire remained intact - he didn't factor in the need for solid technically proficient and competent people under him OR encourage creativity - he
stifled it to protect his own position - and now that he has gone his shortcoming i that department is shown by the kind of managemet structure he left. his No
2 is now in charge and she is making a hash of things - so much for succession planning.
If they thought that Siti was hiring or promoting the wrong people, they should have acted earlier. The solution would have been to get some good experienced
and competent people in there. Isoa had problems a the FDB earlier. Sharon was not doing well in her responsibilities for Fijian business. Siti had no reason
to prepare for his own early departure. I believe he still had a few years to go before retirement.
Did Ratu Mara plan for his succession? It seems that many Fijian leaders have big ego's.
It is also common in Indian bureaucracy to appoint incompetents below you to protect you from stabbing in the back.
Also, if you recall at that time you were spreading the usual army propaganda about parties and private life, as if that had something to do with management.
The same happened to Narube before his weakly excused departure. Innuendo can influence People.
Lets face it, Siti was a highly educated and accomplished Fijian, and QVS Old Boy. He had all the qualifications for a Franko cultural revolution target. The
real motivation for all of this was to justify Franko's coup by labeling any successful Fijian as corrupt. But we all know from the Tuatoko letter
(confirmed to me personally by a former army officer and relative who was at the meeting in 2003) that Voreqe's sole motivation for the coup was to keep
himself in power. Others who joined Franko may have had different agenda, but Franko was quite clear.
You can claim that Franko had nothing to do with Siti's demise, but you see I was not born yesterday. Since December 2006, Franko has created a culture
where people do not breath without his approval. The banning of the Methodist annual meeting is nothing other than a show of power. Let us hope, God willing,
that it backfires for Franko. There would be no better way to end this nightmare than for all Methodists and other supporters to come down from the hills and
in from around Fiji to defy this illegal order by an illegal leader.
that Board had a thing going with Siti from way back - they all had vested interests in having Siti there.
from the beggining those guys were all scratching eachothers balls - conflicts of interest in that whole FHL setup began right from the start.
and because FHL functioned as a protected monopoly it wasn't in any of those Board members interests to rock the boat.
there was no incentive for creativity because there was no need for it - what they had was a power culture set up right from the top. they were a protected
monopoly - they didn't need to innovate or ecourage creativity to survive - their survival was guaranteed and underwritten by the State power structure -
as long as they had a compliant Government in power their monopoly status was protected, and their business interests assured.
in that kind of enviroment the less creative and innovative people you have the better it is - because you want directives that go down from the top to be
followed and implemented without question - and because everything you are doing is backed by the State, it is fail safe.
at the top of the pyramid was the government/ FHL Board and Siti - and that was the Trinity.
the Board in those circumstances couldn't care less whether it had Mickey Mouse as its CEO or Donald Duck - as long as its monopolies were protected and
the CEO protected their vested interests it was all good - and the people in the structure all understand the first rule: don't question the Big Boss man.
the problem with that kind of setup is when you remove the moopolies and start to dismatle the barriers and make them work on even footing with other entities,
the inherent weaknesses in the structure become evident - its not strong across the board at management level because the system was deliberately set to ensure
that certain power configurations remained entrenched and in control of the entity.
and this is what we are seeing now. it would have come out anyway - when you create a monopoly on that scale which uses government protection and market
distortions to secure its foothold in the market, its medium to longterm viability is always in issue - because without a pliant goverment in power the systems
fragility is exposed - it operates independant of market forces, its existence relies on government patronage - one of the reasons why the 2000 coup d'etat
happened is because of the threat to the FHL monopoly created by the FLP Coalition - it was the first time since 1987 that a non FHL pliant entity had taken
power - and that put into issue FHL's viability ovenight because the $20 million loan from the govt was due for repayment the following year - and if you
look at what Qarase's first order of business was even before he was sworn in, it was the writing off as a grant of that loan - that Decree was prepared
even before Qarase went upto Government house to take his oath as PM in the Interim regime - it was of utmost and important priority.
at that time Qarase's companies and a lot of the other Ministers compaies had serious stakes in FHL which were under threat had the repayment of the loan
been put through by the FLP Coalition - the FLP Coalition was removed a few months before the due date for repayment on that loan.
gdev, Siti went to Dudley High School here in Suva - never went to QVS.
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break into the commercial sector. Culturally, Fijians have always been at a strong disadvantage, and in addition, the Indian commercial world was closed shop.
With Franko being bribed to destroy all that was done, the Indian business community will again monopolise and force Fijians into a corner or onto
reservations. The recent revelations to strip Fijians of their land is part of this same process. Make no mistake. This is ultimately what the coup was all
about from the Indian point of view. Franko is bring taken up for murder and along comes Mahen and says we can help you with this if you help us with that and
of course this treason is all presented as being very democratic towards the perennial international "victims".
Fijian form of protest is to do nothing, or brown out, non-cooperation. But that only goes so far and Franko is stepping over the line. At some point it
becomes violent, suddenly, without mistake, and no going back. That is where Franko is headed.
Of course what you are heading for is a blood bath.
Of course he could go out and hang himself like Judas, but by then the damage is already done.
i would have bought your bullshyte had i not known better - you were going on about the takeover of the Judiciary by other races just a few weeks ago - i can
tell you now that two weeks ago i got an offer to join the Judiciary - and i am an itaukei, not an indo fijian or european.
i declined - not because of the politics or anything else - but because to join the bench would have meant leaving my clients in limbo, which i simply cannot
do as the trust placed in me to look after their affairs simply cannot be dropped just because i want to take off and join the Judiciary - it would have also
affected my clients who depend on me to do the ongoing projects which we are engaged in across the board - and i told the Chief Registrar as such.
i can help the country much more with using my skills in these projects which will create ivestment and employment for the country - even without going to the
bench - BUT if i were free to go to the Judiciary i would have not hesitated to do so - because i believe it is necessary to help the country back on track in
whatever way we can help it - that is our duty as citizens of Fiji, politics aside.
Jack did you get your legal education during the SVT, FLP, or SDL days? You must include, of course, the good relations which existed during most of the
period with Australia and New Zealand, who funded most of the scholarships.
Franko is like a desperate politician running for election. Making promises right left and center to stave off the criticism and gain support from the blind to
lead the blind.
But the bottom line is he has had 2.5 years of authoritarian rule where he could have done anything he wanted to make Fiji a better, more productive, and less
corrupt place, and what has he achieved? As I said at the beginning, new pigs at the same trough, but delivering nothing and stifling the rights and
initiatives of the People. Has anyone learned anything? Talk about a $1 billion dollar course in Econ 101 for Voreqe, and I don't think he will pass in
spite of the expense. Who pays?
As far as ethno-nationalism is concerned, it is a good thing, if not taken to extreme. Fijians and Pacific Islanders generally are at a cultural
disadvantage in the commercial world. Affirmative action is to level the playing field, an attempt to equalize opportunities and outcomes, recognizing the
reality of cultural factors. It is accepted by the civilized nations of the world as essential to a healthy society. Frank's strategy of kicking ass and
starving people to submission is not working and will never work. The focus should be on getting the economy working overall and institution policies and
structures to enable everyone to participate equally, not conducting a witch hunt for "ethno-nationalists" and "corrupt officials".
Corruption obviously needs attention, but a prerequisite is a clean police and court system. Where there is no transparency or accountability, this will not
happen. Franko should have used his "emergency powers" to establish institutional structures that would enable the system to operate on its own under
a democratic government. Instead he has created a highly centralized control structure which depends on having a benevolent and intelligent dictator, forever.
But it places too much control under one person, and power corrupts, so there you have it.
One thing you forgot to mention about the "Marxist" governments is that there is always, without exception, a weathy authoritarian elite a the
top, creaming off the spoils. The idea of empowering labour is bullshyt. Look at that Marxist BS artist thiefsamy. Is his salary the same as a labourer on the
street? Where is the great panacea in communism? Communal living and dependency is what you have in the village. How many people are thriving in the village?
What happens to people who work hard and people who are slackers? The hard workers end up supporting the slackers, so after that the hard workers don't
work so hard. So you cultivate a nation of losers and slackers, and some of the biggest losers end up leading the nation.
ethnonationalism doesn't work - when i first started out in the civil service that ethnonationalism thing was at its height - and i saw first hand how
ethnonationalist office politics went - its very destructive. issues of promotion were reduced to questions of race - not technical proficiency - and i
listened to many sessions where the issues were discussed openly in the office - kaidia this and kadia that. kaiviti this and kaiviti that.
the dynamics were wrong - and destructive.
even the Unions became split along itaukei and other races lines.
this much raise for the itaukei Unions, that much raise for the other races Unions, and so it went.....
and it showed - under that system we never built any cohesion OR continuity or efficiencies. the civil service simply grew on the basis that this much itaukei
had to be here and that much indo fijians had to be there - and that was that. rationalise everything on racial numbers. phuck everything else.
the SVT phucked the civil service up and the SDL completely destroyed its viability.
by the time the SDL jumped on the bandwagon, 80% of the government budget was going ito fuel the avarice of the inefficient Ethnonationalist civil service.
as for NZ scholarships - i wasn't the only one to be given one of those. they picked me - i didn't pick them. if you think that just because i was
educated in NZ i have some sort of debt to the kiwi's and keep my mouth shut and not rock the boat - WRONG - i will speak my mind freely on these issues -
that doesn't mean i dislike the kiwi's or aussies - i don't. they taught me free thinking and many other things that has been of huge influence -
and what else do you expect ? NZ has one of the best liberal education systems in the world - at the top tier - they train people to think.
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I can see that you have a specific notion of "ethno-nationalism" in you mind and is generally bad.
Let us not extrapolate that to the badness of all affirmative action, which is what Franko has done. There such a thing as helping out groups who need help,
educationally, professionally, politically, whatever.
Unfortunately Franko has bought into the Indian myth about Fijian nationalism and would like to take a few undesirable experiences and use it to rubbish
anything and everthing that has to do with Fijians. Some people would just like to see some respect for their race and culture. It does not mean they are
trying to deny a bone to others.
No one said you had a debt to keep your mouth shut about NZ. That is Franko thinking level of thinking. Every modern governmental system needs criticism in
order to survive. From that criticism positive changes can be made. The fact that Franko tries to stifle criticism means quite simply that he is not interested
in positive changes and that is to the detriment of Fiji.
affirmative action is a model that is based on structured setups to ensure thatthe dynamics don't distort the system - what we have had here is NOT
affirmative action - under affirmative action models you have MEANS TESTING - parameters for engagement - limits and properly designed pathways towards
objectives - the focus is targetted and specific.
what we had here with the SDL and SVT was simply moving sheep - black ones in this gate and white ones in that gate. Itaukei in this gate and indo fijians and
other races in that gate - there WAS NO SPECIFIC parameter set for the outcomes they wanted to achieve, NO specific model of development set for what they
envisaged going towards, NO specific means testing done to ensure that the action would not be distortive, NO parameters for engagement.
it was simply ethnonationalism - there was no structure to what was being done.
the simply said 50% for this race, 3% for that race, 4% for that race, 10% for that race.....and etc etc etc etc.
the best example of how phucked up it was came way back in the mid 90's when they decided to stop rice importations and give out quotas to ONLY ITAUKEI to
allow ONLY ITAUKEI to import rice - what happened was we had all these people lining up at the Ministry of Commerce asking for a quota ticket - and officials
making fast cash by deciding who got a quota ticket and who didn't - people even went to the FNPF and withdrew their savings to join companies who would go
exclusively into importing rice to Fiji - so all these guys ran off with the quota tickets and started faxing Thailand, Phillipines, Indonesia etc etc etc
ordering containers of rice - everybody went Rice crazy - every itaukei and his dog from here to Timbuktooo was walking around the streets of Suva with Rice
Dollars etched on their forehead.
then the rice containers started arriving and they couldn't sell the damn things - the market got a glut. too much bloody rice. overnight they all went
bankrupt.
the quota system collapsed in less then 3 months.
so much for the SVT notion of "affirmative action".
and as for the SDL.....well we don't even have to go into the details of the agricultural scam on that one...its so blatantly phucked up guys have ended up
in jail for it.
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well lets have a look at it the - Qarase AUTHORISED the unrestrained throwing DOWN THE DRAIN of 18 MILLION TAXPAYERS dollars to PURCHASE Spades and knives ad
forks which he would PERSONALLY distribute to VERY VILLAGE he went to campaign at with his SDL in the months preceeding the 2001 elections.
Who authorised the 18 million throw away ?
what was it authorised for ?
what were the agricultiural initiaves in place to support that hand out ?
what was the follow up initiaves for planting that would carry through with that handout ?
who were to be the beneficiaries of that hadout ?
what specific export sectors were the handout addressed to target ?
which specific segment of the agricultural production sector were the handouts meat to develop ?
what were the target indicators for allocation of those funds ?
where is Qarase's developmental plan for that 18 million handout ?
oh i forgot - there was none - the SDL guys pipe dreamt it up durig a gong session just before the elections of 2001.
No one authorized money to be thrown away, except in your lies.
They were not personally distributed except in your lies.
Spades forks etc were for the development of agriculture, any kind of agriculture which uses spades and forks.
People know how to use spades, forks, and knives. Did you want a training program?
There was a 20 year plan. That is 4 times more than any other government came up with. And it would have been 90% successful except for the jealous usurpers
in 2003-2006. That is a pretty good success rate.
Let us not forget Mahen's $28,000 handout for every unsuccessful cane farmer.